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1  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Main Board / Changes in daily cicle of arousal on: August 26, 2011, 08:03:38 AM
Hi guys,

this is a copy of a reply message I sent to Mitizaro in private. He sent me a message asking about how MMO affected my arousal and motivation for sex. I think it would be a good public discussion for those who managed MMO.

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Hi Mitizaro

I think that, in general, my libido got a little bit lower. Probably because, now, when I masturbate (usually I don't do it in sex with a partner), I can have more orgasms. When I go for the second orgasm I'm not as aroused as I was for the first one and usually I don't have more than 4 orgasms. The orgasms with the clenching muscles techniques have also not been as good as I want them to be. Very weak sometimes.

But I'm not sure it has something to do with stopping ejaculation or not. I don't know if you got it or not, but I can tell you that you change your perception over orgasm when you get successful with the technique. Regular ejaculatory orgasms comes along with lots of body contractions and a espontaneous different kind of breathing and it's all part of the good sensation about the orgasm. When you hold ejaculation you feel the orgasm alone (that "tickling" sensation). It's good because I know I can feel it a second time, but maybe I think it's a weak feeling because it's isolated. Also it is pretty odd to deal with the feeling of no conclusion due to the lack od refratory period.

I have been trying to masturbate less frequently (I was used to do it every day and many times, even with regular ejaculation) in order to feel more aroused (and possibily get better orgasms) when I do it. The fact is that I should be doing some more experiences with this, like trying not to ejaculate for longer periods (I usually have a few orgasms and then I go for a final ejaculatory orgasm), but I'm actually so into trying de use of aneros (which I didn't have any success yet) that I have put it all aside. I'm also considering trying to hold ejaculation with my partner to see how it goes.

Hope it helped (and hope you can understand my poor english)
2  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: Success! on: May 26, 2011, 12:37:31 PM
For me it's like after a few orgasms I know I can reach another orgasm, but a big part of my arousal is lost and building another orgasm may take too long. Since we are too used to the feeling of an end, it's kinda frustrating to feel that. I guess the best formula is to have a few dry orgasms and try to end session with an ejaculatory one.
3  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: Success! on: May 24, 2011, 10:16:46 AM
Cirvante, I'd like to ask you something: when you keep just having many dry orgasms, do you feel, at any point, that you are too far from the next and that it would take you too much effort to get it (and you just give up, probably after 2 or 3 orgasms)?
4  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: Success! on: May 20, 2011, 12:23:17 AM
I don't know if there is much to be described about it. The key really is to recognize the time you should stop stimulation and keep your muscles clenched. I think I can have more pleasure if I stop stroking but keep holding my penis during orgasm, probably that is the reason why orgasm lasts longer sometimes (not always). Maybe some guys do know the right time and have enough strength to avoid ejaculation, but can't do it just due to the fact that we are too used to keep going until an end and maybe the dry orgasm feels not so good sometimes because it leave us with this feeling that we didn't reach that end, since it fades more gradually. You have to get used to this idea that the feeling is the same, but the conclusion isn't, it feels like you are fighting against your orgasm.

Following orgasms may come just as you restart stimulating yourself or may take a while. Somehow you can feel when it will take too long until another orgasm and that can be the time when you decide to stop the session. I'm still practicing it all, I feel like there may be more to be discovered about how I can administrate and feel the dry orgasm.
5  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Success! on: May 19, 2011, 08:56:30 AM
I can finally say I have had success with the squeezing method. It took me 4 or 5 months and the funny thing is that, when you achieve it, you just ask yourself why did you think it was so hard to do before.

The final hint I needed was taken from here in a message where Falsereality said he keps stroking his penis when after have already clenched the muscles so he could find a peak of his orgasm. All my trouble was about defining the PONR: until then, I believed the peak of the orgasm was the time to clench the muscles.

After you get it, you still have to try a few times. The very first ones weren't really good, very weak ones... I think that the brain may need to get used to it. Yesterday I had a really awesome orgasm, with a some reflexes in waves after the orgasm was suposebly gone (a feeling I got a few times with relaxing methods and which my girlfriend seems to have more commonly) and was able to go to a 3rd orgasm (it was already the second one). I guess we should practice some kind of navigation through PONR to find higher standards of pleasure. I still didn't try to bring it all to real sex, I want to be sure I dominated the technique before.
6  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: PC muscles and perineum on: May 05, 2011, 03:26:58 PM
What I'm defining as the "back part of the PC muscle" would be the muscles you can control in your perinium area. Maybe I'm confusing things here and this would be a anal muscle (but not the sfincter, I can keep this one relaxed) but I know that the penis goes all along this way almost to your anus. I just don't know if I should contract every muscle over there or if there would be a problem if I do it.
7  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: PC muscles and perineum on: May 05, 2011, 01:07:12 PM
Ok, I got it! But tell me: when you clench the muscle, you do it all the way, from the basis of the penis along the whole perinium, until your anus, or should I try to keep the perinium part not too contracted?
8  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: KSMO - What is it about anyway? on: May 05, 2011, 10:21:37 AM
Do you know anything about the Aneros device? I was considering starting a new topic here but since almost no one really participates in this forum... anyway, it says something about rewiring yourself so your prostate can produce this multiple full body orgasms. Sounds much like KSMO, I think, but it uses this Aneros to stimulate your prostate directly while KSMO sounds like a only mental training.

Very polemic, of course, because men are very resistant to the idea of putting something inside the anus. But it is said to be a very pleasent feeling.
9  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / PC muscles and perineum on: May 05, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
Ok guys, I know it's an old subject, but I have to ask it: when you guys clech PC muscles, is it only a front part or do you clench everything, including the perinium, pratically getting to your anus? I was concerned about it becaus I thought this rear part could pressure the prostate and it would make it harder to hold the ejaculation spasms. But maybe it's not a problem and I was wondering how do you guys do it.

Everywhere we read about PC muscles it is said to be the way you hold urine, but I personally don't have to use the whole muscle to hold urine.

(And I'm still not capable of getting anything by clenching the muscle... it's very frustrating. I have had some sucess with relaxing methods when masturbating, but not every time and it seems impossible to bring it to a sex with a partner experience. That's why I'm so obsessed with the clenching methods, but I'm still not sure if I'm not strong enough (some of you say that don't have to clech it very strongly to get it), if I still didn't get the timing or if I'm clenching it the wrong way.
10  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: KSMO - What is it about anyway? on: May 03, 2011, 01:25:12 PM
I see. But it means that you'll get to a normal (better, but normal) ejaculatory orgasm anyway, right?
11  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / KSMO - What is it about anyway? on: May 03, 2011, 08:23:21 AM
The very first time I heard about it was in this forum but I never really took a look at it. Until a few days ago when I tried to understand what is this actually about.

My english is not very good so I'm not sure about it, but I think it promisses a completely different experience. Sounds like that full body orgasm thing but without any different effort (no clenching or relaxing muscles, just letting it go).

Is that right or I got it wrong?

Because, if so, I think that's what actually everyone here is looking for (upgrading sexual feelings with no other concerns during sex).

Anyone here has ever had any success with this? Or at least know about someone who did it and may tell a little more?

I don't know if any of you are interested in it, but I found a nice material about KMSO in the web (I didn't have the time to actually read/listen to it and I won't very soon, but looks like good stuff). It's a recorded course and includes examples of the sound triggers: http://ebookee.org/Jack-Johnson-Key-Sound-Multiple-Orgasm-KSMO-_1020403.html
12  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: PC Relax Technique on: April 29, 2011, 08:30:14 AM
I can't manage success everytime I use the relaxing method, but helped me a lot having a normal (and slow) masturbation (not stopping stimulation, not worrying about ejaculation) and keeping muscles relaxed as much as I could. It made PONR much clearer to me than edging exercises.

 I also found out that keeping muscles relaxed makes me have much more pleasure orgasms (dry or not): I believe that it makes less pressure over prostate and makes things more gradual. I have more success with relaxing tecqniques if I'm not too excited (if I have been masturbating frequently), probably because there's less energy to be released.

Usually it's impossible to avoid all contractions, requires too much effort and concentration.

I never had any success with squeezing techniques either, but I'm still trying.
13  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: Succes on: March 29, 2011, 03:27:42 PM
Falsereality, I didn't understand very clearly: first you reach PNR and orgasm feeling and clench your muscles. You don't stop stroking at this time, is that it? Still stimulating yourself, you reach a peak and that's when you stop it? You keep your muscles tight during that peak, still feeling the orgasm, I believe (right?). What happens if you don't stop at this peak, do you ejaculate even with your muscles tight? Usually you let this peak go and then restart stimulatio

(I'm very interested because a few days ago I had this problem: tried clenching the muscles and the orgasm feeling was instantly gone... I don't believe it's right because orgasm shouldn't be something that I could repress. Anyway, I was able to restart stimulation and then orgasm again in a few time, but I think it sucked... I've been having much more fun with the relaxing method, although I almost never can prevent myself from ejaculating)
14  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: Questions about the PC muscle - and tensing it during stimulation on: March 24, 2011, 09:52:33 AM
I had a few success trying to relax everything. Sometimes I got really nice orgasms: sometimes it lasts longer and once I had one that came in waves (REALLY pleasurable). I got it stopping stimulation just as soon as I considered that what I was feeling was already an orgasm and I still didn't ejaculate (sometimes you wil ejaculate a little bit, but its ok since you keep trying to relax your muscles). I can have something like 2 or 3 orgasms in a row using this technique and then I feel like I'm not aroused enough to keep doing it. But it's still not what I'm looking for: most of the times the orgasms are not as strong as ejaculatory ones and it frustrated me a lot (I stopped trying it all in order to have better orgasms, but I'm thinking of starting to train it againd soon) and I find it very hard to do with a partner.

I didn't know that we had 2 muscles, I thought everything were different parts and I think it's very hard to clench one and keep the other relaxed. I also have this instinct of clenching the muscles automaticaly, I don't even think about it, it's a reflex. Think I'll try to concentrate on relaxing it all the time and, if I discover something new, I'll surely write it here to discuss with you!
15  The Male Multiple Orgasm Forum / The Male Multiple Orgasm Newbie Board / Re: My damn hair is falling out on: March 12, 2011, 09:44:37 AM
Man, go to a dermatologist as soon as you can. That's what I did when my hair started falling and I could save almost everything (I went there as soon as it started) just taking a pill everyday since.

I don't know if it has anything to do with trying MMO, but I think it's probably just a coincidence...
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