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 on: October 16, 2017, 11:44:37 AM 
Started by movin it - Last post by R1969
Maybe try less stimulation around the frenulum (just below the tip of the penis) and more stimulation around the perineum (behind the testicles).  Similarly, try making your testicles / perineum the focus of your attention rather than the penis.  You can also experiment with varying the speed, i.e., slow down as you approach PONR.  And, it goes with saying, no porn & no fantasies.

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 on: October 09, 2017, 10:01:34 AM 
Started by multiplelove - Last post by R1969
Here is a visualization I have been experimenting with.  In the body-scan meditation, there is a practice where you "breathe in" to different parts of your body with your awareness focused:  your toes, your abdomen, your jaw, etc.  There is also a practice where you sweep the breath and awareness from the crown of the head to the tips of the toes, and back.  In this second practice, I feel something similar to amygdala clicking re the crown of the head.  So, I have combined this sweep of breath and awareness, toe to crown, with breathing into the perineum, along with gentle manual stimulation of the perineum and frenulum.  Then I visualize-project that my whole body is my penis, with the perineum at my feet and the frenulum somewhere between my forehead and the crown of the head.  As I stroke (gently) I do the sweep of the breath-awareness from toes to crown, in tandem, and that sweep of breath-awareness becomes a stimulation of the projected penis-body.  So essentially I am gently masturbating my entire body.  This sounds a little weird, but it is quite pleasurable.         

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 on: September 19, 2017, 05:43:22 PM 
Started by movin it - Last post by movin it
Hello all! I'm new here. 

I have been reading the book Love Satisfies by Keepitup Johnson.  It is one of the first books which I have found breaks things down simply. 

Here is the thing - I can get myself to the edge of the PONR at about a 9.9 out of 10, if 10 was considered ejaculating.

When I attempted to drift into a non-ejaculatory orgasm, I drifted right into a regular ejaculation.  It seems that both my orgasm and ejaculation are wired very close together.

Any advice is very much appreciated.

I do know that the other sections of the book contain chapters on moving the sexual energy and maybe once I get to those parts it will help?

Thanks guys

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 on: September 05, 2017, 03:02:42 AM 
Started by alc8 - Last post by alc8
Thank you so much for replying!

Im 24yo.
I really found it helpfull and it really helped me mentally, the nofap. Now i did as you said, i've been a bit over a week without touching myself, or having an erection. Thats is quite easy now, that before i started nofap it was so hard to not wank for a day...
Now im wondering how often you should practice these thing then, how to keep the training going and results coming. Is there some early signs that you can see that proof that theres some improvement? well now i can masturbate like 20min without ejaculation, and leave it there but i dont know if thats a improvement because i've just never wanted to try that. I just wanted the quick orgasm and thats it..
 but yeah now im trying to be as lons as i can without ejaculating (well if having sex, then i just might ejaculate) and doing some practices i find.

and thanks for the book recomendation!!

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 on: August 29, 2017, 02:42:13 PM 
Started by alc8 - Last post by R1969
If you felt like nofap was good for your mental emotional wellbeing you could give yourself a weekly masturbation fast where you have "no touch" for a 24 hour period.  Or, if you are feeling empty on the days you masturbate, you could do the converse and make nofap the default for six days and give yourself one free day to masturbate and experiment with MMO.  Whatever works for you.  I think the deal with nofap is that abstinence is the way to overcome impulse control.

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 on: August 29, 2017, 02:16:18 PM 
Started by Vitality4845 - Last post by R1969
Hints:  (cheat codes!): 

1) Give up being goal oriented, just experience whatever happens and be satisfied with whatever happens.
2)  The only thing that should be "tensed" is the PC and only as you are approaching orgasm.  At T -1, you stop stroking and let the PC relax.
3)  For me, that means that on the upward slope I have everything else relaxed, including the abdomen and the muscles around the anus.
4)  No porn and no fantasies.  Just be mindful of the physical sensations.
5)  Try to avoid the fast shallow breathing, intentionally breathe deep and slow. 
6)  I concentrate more on stimulating the prostate (from the outside) than on the penis.  You will feel the contractions there before they spread through the length of the penis.  I also move the strokes away from the tip as I approach orgasm.

I am very pleased to report that after a few months of practice, in addition to achieving MMO / dry orgasms through "self help," I can now achieve MMO / dry orgasms with the wife.  She edges me (external prostate stimulation, ball massage, gentle masturbation) while I kiss and massage her feet.  Fantastic.  And, it's ladies' choice as to whether I ejaculate in any given session.  Win / win.


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 on: August 28, 2017, 02:28:57 PM 
Started by alc8 - Last post by brickbat
Sometimes in MMO play there will be a slight ejaculation that does not invoke the refractory period or loss of erection---at least from reading what younger guys say. 

How old are you and be encouraged if you are a young dude.  This MMO business is one of lifes biggest spices and if you learn it while young, you are in for a lifetime of increased pleasure solo and in sex that regular point and shoot guys will never know.

Keepitupjohnson's book LOVE SATISFIES is a must read for you.  He is the chief guru of this site and what he says in correct.  Real love is the goal of any MMO ability.


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 on: August 27, 2017, 01:27:03 AM 
Started by alc8 - Last post by alc8
Hi!
I just started to practice this sexual kung fu, reading Mantak Chias book of MultiOrgasmicMan.
Last february I started with no fap and that lasted suprisingly a bit over 6months (until I discovered this tantric way).
Few times i got veryvery horny and started to masturbate and massage my dick different ways, but cause i was on nofap i didnt cum.
Now 3days ago, when i did my first practice from this book and really consciously masturbated and massaged my penis, testicles etc i came for the first time after the 6 months, first feeling a bit guilty of that but yes i know it takes time to practice this  so its fine, anyway i didnt feel that much of a energy loss than before when i masturbated almost daily.
Now that I'm really keeping all the energy inside me, i feel so horny all the time, or I kind of can feel my penis all the time and even slightest thought can make it go hard. I feel like practicing all the time now, morning during the day and evening, kind of when ever I can. Is that normal? Should I do it that often and am I doing it right way if i stay so horny all day?
One day I also ejaculated but without any orgasmic feeling, i was just rubbing it, and all of a sudden some cum flew to my arm?? My penis stayed hard and i could just continue, anyone knows what that was about? Yesterday evening my balls started to hurt for few hours, i tried to rub them, but i think there was something swollen from all the practice, now i feel just fine, or hornier and hornier all the time.
In the end i feel really good and well, i've always liked to masturbate and now that i can do it with this new perspective and really exploring myself it feels even better!
Thanks for the replies!

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 on: July 25, 2017, 02:33:40 PM 
Started by Vitality4845 - Last post by KeepitupJohnson
Re: your original post: Keepitup Johnson says " work your way to two strokes before PONR ". In my book, Love Satisfies, I actually say to come between 1-4 strokes from orgasm, then stop and waitt for the orgasm to come to you.

You are doing well to be able to stay in that zone for hours at a time. You're close to dry orgasms. Keep at it, and try coming even one stroke closer to orgasm before pausing the stimulation. There are a lot of helpful tips and techniques in Chapter 24.

Re: your recent posts, yes, you are on to something huge. The mental and emotional side of sex. This is where the greatest joys of sex are found, love and intimacy. Feelings. I mention this in Part 2 of Love Satisfies.  Connecting your own version of God turns you on and energizes you. This energy causes expansion and dry orgasms.Not a waste of time!
Feeling groovy? Feeling down?
Inside the brain and spine are instruments of higher perception. From studies in Neuroplasticity – the science of the mind – the regular practice of anything sets up grooves in the brain. Patterns which the mind-body follow.
You mentioned yoga . . . Yoga, isn’t just for flat abs and a toned booteus maximus.
Yoga prepares the body and mind to feel more energy. I’ve been doing yoga for 40 years, ever since I was 16. Yoga increases your own consciousness awareness of your mind and body. Yoga goes beyond the physical. Yoga, like all other spiritual practices, can light you up and set you on fire. Let the Great Spirit flow through you.
My friend Dennis practices yoga for four hours every day. I asked him once, “Are you ever gonna’ to quit doing yoga?”
“I don’t do yoga, Yoga does me. Man, at this point, I couldn’t quit if I wanted to.”
Higher consciousness - higher, better, gentler – love. Orgasms aren’t coming from outside of you. Your own consciousness gives rise to orgasms.
Let the Great Spirit flow through you. Get off on love. Universal energy comes into your brain and into your spine causing energy orgasms. An overload of sensations coming from inside of you is the cause of orgasms.
Yoga is a way to feel and connect and unite with this “bigger than me” energy. Keep it loving for satisfaction. Only love is important. Love connects us all. Love is at the center of the universe. In Part 2 of Love Satisfies,  I mention more about having dry orgasms as a result of love energy. Using porn almost dooms you to ejaculate. Porn tneds to concentrate all of our energy in one place - the penis. When you move energy out of your penis before you orgasm, then dry orgasms become much easier. Part 2 tells you how! Sorry for plugging my book, but I don't know what else to tell you - I've already written it clearly in the book.If I can do it, we can all do it. Change your operating system from Porn .01 to lLove 3.0. I honor you. You are wonderful and helping others!
Peace and love,
Keepitup Johnson, author of Love Satisfies: How to Have Male Multiple Orgasms.

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 on: July 24, 2017, 02:04:46 PM 
Started by Mayx - Last post by Romeo
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